NO CRITS
NO UNLOCKS
1 MEDIC 1 DEMO 2 EVERYTHING ELSE

FINAL DESTINATION

Do we get saysounds back

ok

All that sounds fine to me. I don't really have anything to suggest and such, but I'll probably reply to other people's suggestions.

Also for no dickaround maps, maybe have a few on the server, but we'll only use them when we want to, you know, dick around. Sort of like we used to do with Pool Day except I guess that map can also be played seriously, etc. Though it's usually for dicking around I suppose.

>No shit/dickaround maps
>Customs == 25% of map lineup, but must be gameplay oriented
>Say sounds conveniently left out of the picture

Oh welp. Don't mean to sound like an ass, but those are the reasons I still play TF2. I've played stock Valve maps dozens upon dozens of times over that they've gotten boring.

I guess I'll just stick to playing on the 4chan Party Van and occasionally playing on HSR if/when there is an event with people to play.

>>598
who are you anyway gtfo

>>599
I dunno, just some guy that's not a tripfag.

I think a mainly vanilla server with no shit customs or shit plugins would be nice.

>>598
I have no problem with dicking around.

I have a problem with dicking around replacing normal gameplay for a game that is actually fun for the first time in over a year.

Partyvan has 2 servers. Being Partyvan 3 is not what I would like to accomplish.

There will be fun and novelty and customs. There will not be balloon race and lolcano and kakariko, because those maps are just not fun.

>>600
>Tripfag
>No tripcode

Other than that, this honestly doesn't sound so bad. I just think that dickaround maps should be considered for special events or whatever, just to break up the monotony of playing the same lineup over and over. It's clear that some people really do like the "fun" maps, and I don't think those people should be ignored completely. However, I can live with this for sure.

Also if you're going to do regular HSR again, I suppose we can again try to do regular Highlander (and maybe Tatsubowl).

I know Slick's tried a few times recently, and before that, it was me and Venn with little success, but we can try once more for a regular schedule type deal with that I guess.

Works for me, maybe leave dickaround mods up for nomination or something but not on normal rotation. Also I enjoy saysounds, but a limit might be a god idea i dunno. Also I love pool day all day.

>>604
On that note, how about restarting DJ night on a somewhat regular schedule?

>>602
Balloon Race is admittedly awful. Problems with clipping through the ship and just falling to your death are just teeth grindingly annoying.

KOTH_Lolcano isn't a bad map. It's extremely anti-campy because of the lava. If blue team is stacked, then red team can just wait until the lava rises to attempt to recontrol the central point. In addition, Engineers have limited places to try to turtle the central point, all of which can easily be taken out by Soldiers / Demomen / Spies.

KOTH_Lolcano is not a bad map. It's got very good gameplay and is well designed.

I dunno about Kakariko Village. If it's the remake from A Link to the Past, then that one for the few 5 - 10 times I played on it was actually pretty fun. Choke points were sort of bad, but the map design was very good and nostalgic. I've heard recent versions crashes servers when I asked a 4chan Party Van mod why it wasn't in rotation.

And yeah, I understand that this is YOUR server and YOU don't want to be Party Van 3, but honestly what server style hasn't been done? What you're doing is hardly any different from the hundreds of regular pubfag servers. The only difference is that micspam is allowed.

There's the (shitty) Tique and 2 Party Van servers, and those are the three I know that accept any and all micspam and will play on custom maps. Party Van has saysounds too.

But if you're going to run just 75% standard rotation maps, then how will your server be any different from all the other servers on TF2?

Are you thinking about how server popularity will fare? As of yet HSR has been for a long time a dead server where no regulars play on. It's empty day and night except for the occasions where there is a very recent update or when there's a Tatsubowl. HSR was even more popular back when it was a regular 24/7 Idling server.

So let's say you do change the server up to as follows:
No shit/dickaround maps
No lolrandom plugins
Customs == 25% of map lineup, but must be gameplay oriented
Micspam as per tradition
Auto assign (anti stack) mandatory plugin

How many people do you expect to actually play on the server other than the regular HSR members? Do you want it to be populated at all, or do you just want to make daily announcements where only ~10 HSR members decide to play TF2 with you?

There's a big difference between running an empty server and one that's actually populated.

>>607
>KOTH_Lolcano is not a bad map. It's got very good gameplay and is well designed.

thank you for saving me the time i might have otherwise spent reading the rest of your post and your subsequent replies

I'm fine with customs as long as they don't have huge balance issues, just try to even it out

Saysounds are fine if we can disable them normally, as you can disable downloads of sound files, but keep the saysounds to a minimum.

Fuck around maps shouldn't really be on rotation, unless you must have one, but keep it low. Plugins only for event related things pls

>>608
Do enjoy your empty server. If you don't want to listen to any opposing sides of the matter, why not just go ahead and make the server just as you planned to?

It's very apparent that any
>asking for your input with regard to maps and plugins
was a complete lie anyways.

And thanks for the ban, Venndiagram. Pretty mature to ban someone for having a different opinion.

>>610
what i'm looking for in this thread is suggestions for maps. i've said that i'll be axing the three i named explicitly, but if there are good customs that play well and aren't just nostalgiabomb stages with bad gameplay, then feel free to mention them.

kakariko is shit because there are no choke points and no way to defend. a sniper can sit at red spawn (or any of a hundred other spots) and just have his way with the attacking team.

if you don't recognize this after a single play, i really don't think we'll ever see eye to eye on map selections.

anyway current list is as follows:

cp_well
cp_granary
cp_dustbowl
cp_gravelpit
cp_gorge
cp_badlands
pl_swiftwater_rc
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
pl_badwater
cp_steel
pl_upward
cp_coldfront
plr_hightower
pl_thundermountain
cp_redfort_b3
arena_lumberyard
koth_nucleus
cp_fastlane
koth_lakeside_final
arena_dust
ctf_doublecross
ctf_sawmill
cp_coldfront
koth_megaman6_b3a
arena_pool_day
koth_harvest

let's edit from here.

saysounds might be up by tomorrow. depends on what porkchop can find.

server did crash on map switch tonight again. thanks for stress testing it to all who played. further yelling at gameservers happening now.

>Auto assign (anti stack) mandatory plugin

no

>>615
name something 4CHAN
receive playerbase

i really don't think you understand what you're talking about here and you continue to show that with each post.

Arena harvest plz.

>>615
I'll go ahead and test some of this shit to see how balanced it feels.

If it seems like it would become hell in 12v12 I'll omit it from my suggestions.

Also, stop naming yourself sage

Also also, limit heavy to 2

>>617
>>615

Didn't know that button auto deletes the post
Woops my bad.

>>617
Great use of dodging the argument.

Back to your argument...

Having 4chan in the name doesn't instantly make it popular. There are MANY servers on TF2 which are very popular even despite not having "4chan" in the server name.

No Heroes servers, SourceOP servers etc.

As for servers that run micspam but don't have "4chan" in the name, there's a few popular options as well. For example,

Weeabootique, Spengeboob's Fightatron (Back when they had their servers up), etc.


In addition, do you just want to keep dodging the argument? Or will I have to say "I told you so" when everything turns out as I said?

Is playing cp_Granary with only 3 other players on your team really that fun while your team goes up against 5 red players?

The point I'm trying to make here is that you need to give the public players a REASON to go to your server and keep coming back. You want to provide a service to the regular players so that you can have a fun, populated server.

When you make rules and decisions for ONLY the few compfag buddies you want to play with, you essentially get a server whose only traffic... Is just them. Again and again, if you design rules and maps for the benefit of only YOUR group, then you're excluding everybody from playing on your server and you'll be left paying again every month for an empty server.

Wasted money isn't exactly the best thing in the world these days, especially given the economy. I know you work hard at your job to make a living and to make money, so why are you paying so much just for an empty server?

Also, as a side point:
You make it apparent that you are completely incompetent in both your actions and the deafness you proclaim in every post.

You hire incompetent mods who are so polar as to ban someone multiple times for expressing an opinion that was clearly asked for in the OP post.

You do realize how that reflects on you, right?

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>621
the more indignant you become, the more obvious it is that you don't 'get' what this group is about.

as long as the core group here enjoys playing, the server will see plenty of activity.

you keep on thinking you understand my motivations - i don't want to be teek or any of these servers. don't try giving me history lessons or lecturing me about how servers and gaming communities are built, child. i've been doing this since cs 1.4, and i know what i'm after.

what you don't get is that the core group here formed by playing tf2 in a certain way. if we can enjoy playing as a group again in our own way, it will easily attract similarly minded new people.

any fag can hop on to /v/ and say HEY GUISE LOOK AT MY SERVER

what i want is for my friends to enjoy tf2. the rest will come automatically. it's not something you have to try at unless you value yourself through the number of online friends and how busy your server is.

like i said, you continue to show that you are of a different mindset than i am. that's fine. enjoy your party van.

>>595

Also, meanwhile at Yura vs fisty

(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING A MISINFORMED RETARD)

>>621

so you want randos to hop in the server and download a 100mb custom thats awful for 5 minutes so we have no one, instead of just having stock maps that are good and i dont have to download, i just have to download small stuff.

ok.

also half the customs that are being removed were reasons why hsr was empty. most of the customs emptied hsr because you either had to download them during map change or they are complete garbage.

didnt read w/e sounds like some gay nerd shit above

i see it broken down like this, hsr is a community based on the fact that we circlejerk and microcirclejerk within friends, whatever it means either playing certain games like pr, or pangya

so it's not like server traffic will be populated by outsiders. if that's the goal ignore this part then. but if we are just trying to make sure we have the right maps for all of us to enjoy then fuck this guy above just do a doodle or something even of the maps if general consensus and voiced opinions do not seem too strong. i mean we're going to be the ones playing on the server. it has to be a strong base before any others will join.

>>624
retard thats not yura

>>614
>saysounds might be up by tomorrow.

Excellent.

>>621
>No Heroes servers, SourceOP servers etc.

Hey what do you know, those are stock map, serious servers.

>623
>who are so polar as to ban someone multiple times for expressing an opinion that was clearly asked for in the OP post.

>indignant
Well, speak of the devil. Guess who's the indignant one for banning someone with an opinion? I haven't raised my voice once, merely posted my opinion.

Again, you're proving my point twice now. You banned Kanau, and me again.

This proves you're completely incompetent.

Kanau, being misinformed, should not be banned. In addition, me, merely posting my opinion makes you completely butt frustrated?

Why? Why are you so angry? Nobody did anything to you.

You prove your incompetence when you let one person's opinion cloud your proper judgment.

Fact is: If you ban me again for posting my opinion, you're still being incompetent. Only once you allow freedom of speech and calm down will you prove that you're not incompetent.

My bet's on that I'm getting banned (again) for having a different opinion.

(USER WAS NOT KAWAII ENOUGH)

>>630
I dunno, that sounds extremely familiar to the setup I see being posted on this page.

... With the minor addition of micspam.

>>631
u r dumb lol kanau wasn't banned by him

u don't know anything about this group

u don't know anything about how things are done

u don't know shit son

stop acting like u do, stop talking like u know every member or what we are or how we do things

or you know what keep posting, write me a essay son, i will mark it

>>631

back me up everyone, 50 gallons.

>>634
Yeah I got yo back for once.

>>634
i got you, we are trolling this kid hard

can't wait for the next novel 2 come out

>>631

actually im fairly certain it was nobody can ever take a joke on HSR, ironically.

I however am greatly enjoying the derailment of a constructive thread because people cant ignore opinions they don't like, so how about we complete the process by posting cute images of cute girls?

>>637
Dumb.

Florida.

Moron.

>>638

thats not a cute girl

>>639
Of course not. Vice City's character models are fucking hideous.

>>638
I am obliged to reinforce my internet acquaintance KazuCrash on this matter.

lol this is honestly making my stomach churn.

>he seriously doesnt realize its a server by us for us.

if you dont like it, the party van is always got its doors open for more retards.

can we be on topic pls
drama is gay thx g

But really, I have a list of maps here that I'm about to list, feel free to add or subtract

This is for rotation only:

cp_5gorge
cp_badlands
cp_coldfront
cp_degroot
cp_dustbowl
cp_egypt
cp_fastlane
cp_freight
cp_gorge
cp_granary
cp_gravelpit
cp_mountain lab
cp_steel
cp_well
cp_yukon
ctf_doublecross
ctf_turbine
Koth_harvest
koth_nucleus
Koth_sawmill
pl_badwater
pl_barnblitz
pl_frontier
pl_goldrush
pl_thundermountian
pl_upward
plr is gay
Customs so far:

Arena Pool day
cp_desperados
cp_japan
cp_redfort
cp_warpath
koth_megaman
koth_pacman
pl_cashworks
pl_swiftwater
pl_minepit

Yukkuri mention: ctf_speedrace(dick around map)

suggestions pls

cp_desperados - nope
cp_japan - okay
cp_redfort - whatever
cp_warpath - nope
koth_megaman - nope
koth_pacman - nope
pl_cashworks - okay
pl_swiftwater - okay
pl_minepit - nope!

>>644
i agree except japan

i'm gonna have to give that a nope

>>643
No Japan or Pac-Man, please.

>>643

dont care, maps are maps and I play on a map.

It could be Final Destination and I would be fine, just give me saysounds.

>>647

i never see you on tf2 u are always playing streat fiter or some gay mod thing.

>>648

sorry thats not related to the thread and its not a cute girl please try later

on second thought keep japan so I can show my bushido with my genuine bushido sword

>>649
>That picture
>Cute

What?

>>650
backin that up

>>650
i must, as a connoisseur of cute and kawaii things, position myself squarely behind my good acquaintance joephis on this matter

>>649
Bro she looks like she belongs in a crackhouse

>>650
here is cute stay on topic pls

>They dont think Sheryl is amazing
>they wouldnt lick that area in between her shoulder blades

fags.

>>655

>he likes anyone from macross.

>>654

ok ok


also whoever suggested dj night, i greatly approve, its a lot of fun. also highlander time?

n e 1 got some 4 year old anime girls im in 2 that

>>656
yo ranka is p moe

>>655
>in between shoulder blades
>spine
>licking the spine

huh.

>>655

Kanoe's dumb back me up

>>663
I'll reinforce you on that issue.

y do u do this

Anime

>>637
I'm very glad you weren't banned by Fisty's stupidity, Kanau.

>>625
That's not why randoms don't play on the server. The 4chan Party Van gets pubfag users every single day despite having exactly
1,462 say sounds. All of which total to about 85mb and that's before any single ONE map is downloaded. Clearly, Party Van is still popular with pubfags despite your theory.

The reason why HSR is always empty can be attributed to a mix of any of the following reasons:

a) Ass-pained mods who say it's my way or the highway. When map selection favors only a select group of competitive players, the only traffic is the same group of competitive players.

b) Because YOU don't play on it. No random player joins 0/24 servers. Randoms want to join busy, active servers with other people to play with. They are not interested in playing by themselves. You can only blame yourself for its lack of popularity because you don't play on HSR's TF2 server regularly. (Again, regulars like popular, full servers like the Party Van, SourceOP, or No Heroes)

c) Lack of desirable service to the players. SourceOP provides many different servers with many different map rotations to cater to different player desires. They might have a Valve Payload rotation with SourceMod on one server and another that's just 24/7 2fort. Party Van provides a service that lets players micspam, use a variety (1,462) of say sounds, and play on a large variety of custom maps which are player nominated and voted for. Party Van's service is popular enough to warrant a 2nd server which also nears full capacity during peak hours.

If fisty wants to keep HSR as a circlejerk for HSR, which has seemingly been his intention, why not lock the server to random players completely, 24/7? Apparently he doesn't want the server to be full of players, so if he just set the password to "cats" like it usually is, then random players wouldn't get in the way on the few occasions you do decide to play.

I don't see anything wrong with having the server open with fun maps and plugins for regular players. Whenever you want to hold a Tatsubowl or something, you can shutdown the server and restart it with a password for the core HSR crowd to enjoy. Random players that want to join can actually join HSR chat to get the password if they're interested in playing.

It doesn't really matter what the core crowd of HSR wants, because that can be decided on a case-by-case basis. When HSR decides to actually play TF2, you can decide when you're in the server what map everyone wants to play.

Keeping the map rotation with the same stock Valve maps and not encouraging random players to play will not change anything with the HSR server. Just because you limited the map rotation and removed lots of plugins doesn't change anything from the inevitable fact that HSR will NOT play on an empty server unless you make an announcement to make them play. That's just how everyone is.

>>642
And in this post, SK, you favor the circlejerk more. Why did you flip flop on the issue?

Are you annoyed that the server is always 0/24 or not? The post before implied you were somewhat piqued that it's always empty because of the plugins and custom content on the server.

Do you prefer relatively full servers or relatively empty servers?

>>667
Why do you keep hiding behind a sage? Your opinion doesn't matter beacuse you're clearly not part of this group, and until then you're just some random douchebag.

That or you're some random jerkoff from Mumble.

>>668
forgot my tripcode

>>667
>I don't see anything wrong with having the server open with fun maps and plugins for regular players. Whenever you want to hold a Tatsubowl or something, you can shutdown the server and restart it with a password for the core HSR crowd to enjoy. Random players that want to join can actually join HSR chat to get the password if they're interested in playing.

This is how HSR has always worked. Proof that you know absolutely nothing about how this group works, even if you've been here for a month or a year.

>>668
Is there a problem with not releasing my identity?

I do it for a few reasons:
a) As a personal rule, I don't post my username/real name, nor do I namefag on imageboards. Generally all fields are filled with sage for no particular reason. I can post under the name Anonymous, too, but why if I can just fill all fields with sage? What bothers you about all the fields being filled with sage?

b) Apparently, as I've been banned multiple times without a good reason on Brofist, I'd rather not let my identity be known should there be a case where I happen to be banned from either the Mumble channel, or from the HSR server, or from HSR itself.

I'm not an ass-pained person to completely quit HSR because I got banned on an imageboard. I do enjoy the occasional Tatsubowls I play on the HSR server. I'd like to keep playing Tatsubowls in the future.

For the moment, you, nor anyone here, has any reason to know my identity as chances are it would just be used against me despite my good intentions.

I want HSR to be a popular server again, I want to be able to have to make a tough choice between wanting to play on HSR or Party Van when I open TF2. I want both servers to be appealing. Apparently nobody else wants that. You all want to circlejerk amongst yourselves like neckbeards. It's really sad to see that HSR was actually much more popular as an idle server.

>clearly not a part of this group
I am. I know the regular password for the HSR server has been "cats" and I've played Tatsubowls before. I'm not as active as to be in Mumble every day or to be in HSR group chat, but I am occasionally there. I've been a part of the Steam group for about 2 years.

>you're just some random douchebag
Ad hominem does not win arguments.

>670
>This is how HSR has always worked. Proof that you know absolutely nothing about how this group works, even if you've been here for a month or a year.

I've known how that's always how it has worked. I've played Tatsubowl numerous times and that's how I first got the regular password 'cats'. I used to idle in HSR back when it used to be an idle server. I've been around the block. The point I was making is that the server can swap between two modes of play which benefits both the circlejerk competitive play HSR regulars like and benefit the random players looking for a new server to play on.

HSR USED to be at a point where randoms would regularly play on the server and when Tatsubowl happened, they would be kicked off. What's wrong with returning to that old format? Currently, there's nobody to kick off because the server just doesn't get ANY traffic, even from HSR members. Nobody bothers to enter the server unless a recent update happened (Dr. BorkBork update or Uber Update, for example), a Tatsubowl is happening (there hasn't been one for months), or two groups are playing in the Summer TF2 Round Robin tournament (of which I don't think there have been any matches lately).

HSR should be popular when it's not holding an event for HSR members. That's the point I've been trying to make here.

A new HSR member wouldn't know as much as I know about HSR.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

stop turning this into a drama thread

fuck shit

>>671
ok there joeyjojo

So what if we just made it fun
I'm a robot I know what fun is about.

>>>631
Only once you allow freedom of speech and calm down will you prove that you're not incompetent.

i couldn't stop laughing

>>644
i agree except ok with deserados

>>667
how do you make these essays, do you type them in word first, or do you do it all in this little box thing

>>671

why must i wake up to bullshit? don't you people sleep?

>>654
most kawaii thing in thread

>>643
thanks for on topic discussion

>>667
I haven't banned you one time, loser. Stop taking yourself and your opinions so god damn seriously. Nobody else does.

hello i am still awake

On that note, I have not looked at the Say Sounds yet, sorry Fistycats. I will do it when I wake up because I am forgetful and such.

>>657
I guess Highlander is also good, but DJ night is probably something we should try to do first, as it's a bit easier to organize.

I like co_desperados

randomcrits vote was fine

I'm wary of dust because I don't think that anyone really enjoys arena sincerely. Pool day is mostly just nostalgia anyway

Also no degroot. Please.

>>614

The only map I'd outright ditch on that list is the Megaman one. I know how much some people like it, but it's just not a good map.

Other than that, I'd probably add in some of the more serious custom maps. Some suggestions:

Swiftwater
Waste (PL/CP are the better ones)
Furnace
Mirrored Maps [http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=15732] - Most servers I've seen only use the mirrored Dustbowl map, but the others are still decent.

Other than that, even though I know you probably hate it, Versus Saxton Hale mode is actually a good way to fill a server. I was on the Partyvan yesterday, and watched as the server went from like 10/32 to full in seconds. I'd say put one or two of the less shitty VSH maps on, and make them nominate/rtv only.

Further thoughts on maps while I am stuck at work :

Desperadoes is actually a good hsr map
5gorge is not terrible
What is mountainlab anyway?
Japan...eh. no harm in playing it I guess.
Arena dust was an oversight and is trash
Turbine & 2fort were forgotten and will be back

>>682
Versus Hale is fun, but having it as a special event, kind of what I said earlier, would probably be best. It would be strange to have normal gamemodes and then SAXTON HAAAAAAALE all of a sudden.

>>672
I can't see it stopping anytime soon, as long as people still respond to it.

>>649
Are you actually serious about keeping Japan, or are you just being King Weeaboo again?

>>683
Mountain Lab is basically a normal-themed Mann Manor, so it's attack / defend CP.

As for 2fort, I think it will bring in some fresh blood, but I'm not sure quite a few of the regulars would be open to it. I can already imagine the

>2fort

In the following posts. But if we're going to have 2fort, can we please get rid of the classic version?

>>684
i want saxton hale saturdays.

7pm on saturday, RELEASE. THE HALE!!!


SAXTON HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!

As far as maps, I'd like it if some of the old highlander maps (custom 5 CP maps that were actually good) were brought back. I can't remember any names but I remember one that I particularly liked that was kind of dark and had the sawmill theme.

Also no degroot holy shit that's probably the least fun anything ever and the people who like it are just bad people in general

just kidding you're actually decent people

not really you're fucking retarded I hate you

no I don't

no degroot

>>687
Degroot is really a dickaround map, so it probably shouldn't be there. It doesn't seem like many people have fun on there anyway.

Further updates from Catlunch:

Gameservers confirm that the crash issue is specific to linux servers. Their patch is meant to disable beam weapons until gaben gets off his ass and fixes the linux server bug, which could be anytime. I have twisted their arm repeatedly to get their shit together, and they seem genuinely mad at valve themselves. We'll see whether the re-patch works tonight. I'll take stability and no beam weapons for a week or two. Also, getting refunded for this month's rental, which defuses some of my anger. Not that I need $20 but hey that's more Pangya pantsu.

With regard to maps:

most 5 point CP maps are actually fun and competitive, custom or not. i will review some of the archives.

degroot is ... yeah no. i just have to veto it. sorry.

weekend saxton hale is something that takes a minimal amount of effort and would provide good variety. i am on board with this.

dj night etc - if we'll be around on friday nights, i have no problem with this. however, it is usually dead in chat and mumble on fridays.

more than anything, i guess what is positive about this discussion is hearing that there is actual interest in having a well-set up and well-run server around for play most of the time. all it will take is ~2 weeks of consistent play for people to gravitate back to hsr on a regular basis. enough kids have the IP and drop in already when we do play, announcement or no.

>>593
Everything in this post is good.

>>614
All of these are good

>>625
Most important aspect of the server reboot. Customs are fine, but I will not play if the max is five players to a team. To avoid this we need some random pubbers, because twenty four HSR people will never be playing at once, for as long as I'd like. While I am not the most important many people share my sentiments when I say that having a large group of people actively playing in the server is the most important. More important than maps, say sounds, admins, and balance issues. Pubs can be kicked to make room for more members and more pubs attract more pubs.

>>616
Both of these plugins are absolutely required. An unbalanced team immediately makes members of the other leave, and then the people who rolled leave to look for people to play with. Bad for both parties, in every single instance.

>>644
I do not loath warpath or minepit. But i also don't care either way.

>>647
This is the single worst mentality you can have about the server. While you will play any maps in the server, I will not. the majority of all people will not. While you will play any map in the server with your six bros for that half an hour each week, people like myself and others sit and despair over the fact that nobody else plays in a server riddled with wretched unloved and unrefined maps like dodge-ball.

>>680
We might want to schedule an opening sort of event, but continuous events should wait maybe a week or two, so that the server can settle and everyone can learn about its existence.

>>684
No game modes besides the one in stock maps. No exceptions should be made, degroot is an extremely bad thing if it runs for more than then minutes (In my opinion) but should be allowed because it is supported by Valve and people know what the fuck it is.

>>687
I also liked all of the Highlander maps we used to play, though they may not be worth a custom map slot unless its DJ night or something. Nobody wants to download for 10 minutes (Or whatever the fuck) to get a spliced granary and badlands.

LASTLY as before, I would be more than willing to help with everything related to the server and getting people to play. I'd really like to see a server like HSR was, running again. I can't get the same friendbase and skill level anywhere else.

ok so, no degroot or desperados

but yes to 2fort?

Anything else to add or remove?


cp_5gorge
cp_badlands
cp_coldfront
cp_degroot (to be removed)
cp_dustbowl
cp_egypt
cp_fastlane
cp_freight
cp_gorge
cp_granary
cp_gravelpit
cp_mountain lab
cp_steel
cp_well
cp_yukon
ctf_2fort (to be added)
ctf_doublecross
ctf_turbine
Koth_harvest
koth_nucleus
Koth_sawmill
pl_badwater
pl_barnblitz
pl_frontier
pl_goldrush
pl_thundermountian
pl_upward
plr is gay
Customs so far:

Arena Pool day
cp_desperados (to be removed)
cp_japan
cp_redfort
cp_warpath
koth_megaman
koth_pacman (possibly removed)
pl_cashworks
pl_swiftwater
pl_minepit

>>687
cp_indulge but hasnt been updated in 99 years
http://www.vilepickle.com/creations/maps/indulge

>>691
don't actually have to remove any of the maps from the server, just remove from rotation
warpath is gay
pacman is gay
take all dick around maps off rotation
I think we have too many 5pt cp maps, take one or more of badlands/well/granary off rotation since theyre boring and old

>>690
god those eyes are hot as fuk

>>692
it was planned that these listed were rotation, as for the server it doesn't matter how many you stack onto it.

just don't leave the map on when you're done.

I also think that it's commonly agreed to have at the very least one or two "silly" maps on rotation, because not everyone likes 100% serious mode at all times, which is why I assume teek keeps degroot.

The worst that can happen is people rtv it, right? As long as it doesn't pop up 8 billion times in map selection it should be fine to have one or two assuming they have actual objectives and are not stuff like harbel or cyberpunk

>>691
cp_5gorge
cp_badlands (if we need to chop a 5 point cp, this would be my choice)
cp_coldfront
cp_degroot (to be removed)
cp_dustbowl
cp_egypt
cp_fastlane
cp_freight
cp_gorge
cp_granary
cp_gravelpit
cp_mountain lab
cp_steel
cp_well
cp_yukon
ctf_2fort (to be added)
ctf_doublecross
ctf_turbine
Koth_harvest
koth_nucleus
Koth_sawmill
pl_badwater
pl_barnblitz
pl_frontier
pl_goldrush
pl_thundermountian
pl_upward
plr is gay
Customs so far:

Arena Pool day
cp_desperados (to be removed)
cp_indulge
cp_japan
cp_redfort
cp_warpath (to be removed)
koth_megaman
koth_pacman (probably removed)
pl_cashworks
pl_swiftwater
pl_minepit

>>695

Executive order sparing desperados.

>>694
I want all of that. Holy fuck.

>>690

this.

>>695
i vote no megaman, at least don't have it in the normal rotation

very shitty map

>>690

Thanks for the feedback and offer of help.

If you would locate some proper antistack plugins and wave them around in SleepChop's face until he notices them, I'd appreciate that much. I don't get out of work for another few hours.

>>695
RIP badlands. Also, does anybody really like Yukon? I mean, it's good (in my opinion), but do people now tolerate it years later? It used to clear the server when we ran it as a custom.

>>692
Opinions

>>695
I think all stock maps should be available. I also mean maps like Junction. Allowing all stock maps would allow for the ones people favor to be chosen. It does not make any sense cutting one out, but leaving the rest based on the few people who have seen this threads opinions. I think a key thing to remember would be that people know stock maps. We shouldn't have to censor those at all for those on the server. People know what Junction and hoodoo are. People do not know what pacman is and will vote for it because it sounds cool, but clears the server.

>>701
But yea, I think that a CP or 2 would be a good idea to remove from roation. I was assuming we would have an end of map vote.

Apologies.

>>701
I respectfully disagree with including Doodoo and Junkshit. Our time is better spent playing swiftwater and gravelpit, respectively.

>Both of these plugins are absolutely required. An unbalanced team immediately makes members of the other leave, and then the people who rolled leave to look for people to play with. Bad for both parties, in every single instance.

also i wouldn't say that the plugin is absolutely necessary because 'stacking' is usually some shitty players following one or two good players

and you can probably just bypass the plug in anyway by waiting till the team you want to join has 1 less than the other and joining then

so in conclusion i still say no because my freedom of choice is my choice of freedom god bless america

>>701
if you leave all the stock maps on rotation the rtv for nextmap selection is cluttered with all the shitty stockmaps and less selection since you can only choose from 5
>>700
pretty sure you dont even need a plugin to force even teams and theres a cvar somewhere
autobalance plugin does a pretty shitty job of autobalancing anyway, teams are going to be unbalanced when they are regardless of what you do

Joey Jojo hasn't posted anything new for a while, he must be writing up a massive essay.

Anyways, maps like mirrored Dustbowl is getting removed right? Cause that's a shit map.

>>695
Badlands is a good map
If we're chopping a 5cp it should be yukon.

>>708
Does Yukon even attract people? I know that Badlands does have an audience. Yukon is just not very entertaining to play on. Not enough open spaces besides the middle point, and even it is littered with rocks and shit.

>>708

The suggestion was to chop an older 5cp map, if you'd rather chop yukon I have no qualms, although I don't dislike yukon myself.

As for keeping "all stock on rotation" means that you would also get stuff like arenas(clears servers fast as fuck) and hoodoo, so some chopping was needed, but feel free to nominate stock maps that I chopped.

Try to limit the custom bashing, unless there is a HUGE general dislike for a certain custom we should really keep a few on rotation. Like I said, not everyone in HSR that is actually part of the circlejerk likes 100% stock and serious modo maps.

I myself can tolerate certain maps like megaman just because it plays decently, there are stock maps that have huge problems that people love too (Dustbowl, goldrush, steel, fastlane, lakeside, etc).

As for stacking plugins, if people really don't like them, don't add them, but let us hope that people play by a slight honor system. I used to pick auto assign all the time until I notice it kept plopping me on the half pubbie teams, so now I just join whatever side has more of the little "friend" icons in the team display, simply because I'm tired of dealing with that shit. I mean, why stay on a server where you get constantly rolled when you can just leave and get somewhat balanced valve pubs (meaning both teams are terrible).

Also, dj night causes confusion, you should hold events that are not related to micspam, it throws people off. I suggest custom map night every other week, or maybe some special type of playmode like the football tatsu shit.

>>609
>>711
Also, please note there is a difference between fuck around and playable silly maps.

Fuck around means shit like trade maps and non objective maps. Not "oddly designed and inspired maps." If it doesn't have many balance issues or rage inducing gimmicks and some people really like it it should be given a chance.

>>712
i didn't read a word you typed due to chika lum

>>624
>He thinks that i'm Slick's retarded neighbor
I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

I don't think anyone likes Arena, so there shouldn't really be any contest concerning those.
For maps that are heavily split, why not run them for a few weeks and see what happens? If the server tends to clear out when a map is up, then gee golly jeepers it must mean that it can be taken out of rotation!

>>713
ur dum

I don't know what I can say to contribute, everythin sounds fine, I'd like to play on hsr instead of shittybooteek and sittybooteek 2.

I'm glad this thread was made.

>>715
i love arena.........

Holy shit I can't believe I missed the awesome that was this thread. I better try to get some hydration before it all runs out:
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Ok, real talk:

>micspam
Have in-game speech disabled so I can hear your kawaii voices in mumble, so I don't give a shit.
>saysounds
I don't really use them and already have them all downloaded, so I don't give a shit.
>dickaround maps
I enjoyed pacman, but not enough to give a shit.
>stock maps
Turbine is a shit map, but faggots like Joe love it so I guess it will be played regardless of the shit I give.
>auto-assign plugin
I love waiting in spectator for the team I want to stack to have an opening.

>>719
>Have in-game speech disabled
Do we not encourage music and micspam in HSR? Besides, there are plenty of people who don't use Mumble. You can disable in-game speech for yourself if it's that much of a bother.

>>720
thats why he said he didnt give a shit

So.

Saysounds are working. Thanks for helping test them and troubleshoot, venn.

Maplist has been streamlined. It's at 95% now.

Deadchat and similar work now.

Only (and most important) thing remaining is bullshit linux server crash issues. I have yelled at gameservers about this and continue the back and forth.

My hope is that valve will fix their crash bullshit and when it is finally stable, we will be 100% ready to relaunch.

There is certainly enough interest to get us rolling once shit is stable. People will join, no problems. At this point we are at the mercy of gaben or gameservers, and I'm putting money on gaben coming through before gayservers.

>>720
>You can disable in-game speech for yourself if it's that much of a bother.
Thank you for restating what I said.

>>711

>HSR
>Honorable

pick one, nobody ever lets me chop off their head.

Cowards.

>>722
linux is the best operating system

Okay.

So things seem stable. No thanks whatsoever to Gameservers. Credit to playtesters putting up with grouchy disoriented cats who don't have weed.

6 hours later, things are very functional. With so many new and newly re-interested players, we had a good number of hop-ons. Should certainly not be a problem populating whenever we desire. Good times.

Continue your feedback and moé here.

>>728
tyty<3

HEY FAGS, WHAT'S UP IT'S YA BOY SAC COMING!!!!!


8====================================D~~~~~~~~~~D:(JOEKINS FACE WHEN IM HEALING HIM)

MOTHERFUCKER


DONT CUT BADLANDS

NO

NO

BESTLANDS

FUCK YEA
BAD
LAND
SSSSSS


KEEP DESPERADOES
FUCKING GOOD SNIPER MAP
AND UH
MOTHERFUCKING
DEGROOTKEEP
NEEEDS TO BE CUT
LIKE A NIGGER IN AN ABORTION CLINIC

AND LIKE

WHY DOES THIS NIG BITCH ABOUT (CATERING TO COMPFAGS) THE ONLY COMPFAGS ON HSR WERE VENN AND KNIVES IN TWL WAY BACK AND ME AND KWAZI (KWAZI GOT IN INVITE BITCHES) AND TRUTH BE TOLD, I WONDER WHAT ME OR KWAZI DID TO GET THAT SHIT, OH WAIT



I FUCKING KNOW



YOU'RE JUST A FUCKING RETARD WHO TAKES HIS OPINIONS FROM /V/ CUZ YOU PROLLY HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION ON A LOBOTOMY CENTER.

TRUTH TOLD

TRASH DESTROYED


SAC OVER AND OUT.

>>734
we voted on yukon going instead of badlands

Degroot is also out

other maps should be weeded out or added in as tastes change

>>735
tbh i like yukon too, as scout, such a fun map, hsr usually has fewer players anyways which makes the gameplay on the map way more enjoyable, and its a way better5cp then lets say snakewater or 5gorge

>>718
Nothing clears out HSR faster than You are now moving to arena_*
At least in my admittedly limited time in this group.

Hi I didn't read any of this thread, but basically just do the opposite of what Slick did with the server and you'll be on the right track.

ie when I connect to HSR I don't have to download anything more than a few saysounds, and I should be able to actually play the game.

Anything else is just asking for a continued 0/24 HSR.

Keeps all stock maps in except for:
arena maps
tc_hydro
ctf_2fort
pl_hoodoo
cp_junction

>>738
Oh also degroot but that should be obvious

Maybe leave it in for occasional dicking around, but there are custom maps for that which are much more fun than Degroot

>>736
5gorge was newer than yukon so we felt we should leave it in, but I too like yukon. The server is not done yet, just know that we need to keep the official to customs quota so other members of the group don't feel left out

effort-posting is hard

Map choices (already settled but w/e): please keep badlands and desperados, please axe nucleus and put like viaduct or something in. other than that it is a Good Map List. also maybe toss garbageday on there for a dick-around map a la pool day

How about events: i mean i guess the big thing was the dj nights every week way back in the day, but i'm sure there's other shit that can be done on a weekly/biweekly basis like Custom Maps Night (aka shitty community maps night) or like, highlander and 6v6 events and stuff. the thing is, we should schedule shit on the steam group way ahead of time and promote it to build up interest; brainstorming is needed on the server events front

in addition, fuck fourchan shit

>>728
also things seemed to have broke again, while testing stuff out last nigh-morning the server suddenly went arena only, and all there was to choose from in the rtv was arenas.

probably need a fix, but the crashes I'm certain are almost 100% because of Cock mongler 5000

Adjustments

cp_5gorge
cp_badlands
cp_coldfront
cp_dustbowl
cp_egypt
cp_fastlane
cp_freight
cp_gorge
cp_granary
cp_gravelpit
cp_mountain lab
cp_steel
cp_well
cp_yukon
ctf_2fort
ctf_doublecross
ctf_turbine
Koth_harvest
koth_viaduct
Koth_sawmill
pl_badwater
pl_barnblitz
pl_frontier
pl_goldrush
pl_thundermountian
pl_upward
plr_hightower

Customs so far:

arena_pool day
cp_desperados
cp_japan
cp_redfort
cp_toyfort
koth_megaman
koth_pacman (?)
pl_cashworks
pl_swiftwater
pl_minepit

>>744
arena_pool day - should be on for like, 15 mins max
cp_desperados - shit sniper map
cp_japan - I like it but others seem to have a problem
cp_redfort - I don't really care
cp_toyfort - shit map as far as I remember
koth_megaman - shit map
koth_pacman (?) - shit map
pl_cashworks - good map
pl_swiftwater - good map
pl_minepit - shit map can we remove this

>>745
if more people want to remove it it will be removed

>>745
seconding

>>745
i dont even know what half of these maps are, but joe said it so i better back him up!

can we get pl_frontier

can we get rid of MINEPIT I HATE THAT MAP ITS SO SHITPAIF"KDGNO"LIKGFNBSD"GKOBNSOGKNB"OSDKF

can we also get rid of japan, megaman, pacman

i want to get rid of 2fort cuz everyone watrts laughing at it and scout rush the cap or something. its a sad day for the not stacked team.

can we also get ctf_convoy

>>744
cp_desperados - dicking around map
cp_japan - dgaf
cp_redfort - dicking around map its gay
cp_toyfoy - watever
koth_megaman - dicking around
koth_pacman (?) - dicking around
pl_cashworks - yes
pl_swiftwater - yes
pl_minepit - duno lol

Okay, so I'm gonna say we're chopping pacman, but are most of us 100% cool/not caring about chopping minepit?

And stop misusing the word "dick-around"
If it can play without being an imbalanced pile of trash it's not dick-around.

>>744
arena_pool day - Always good. Don't think anyone's going to disagree on this one. I do agree with keeping it short though.
cp_desperados - Not a dick-around map, but also not THAT great for gameplay. It's better than most, but still kind of why. Also a sniper-fest.
cp_japan - I don't really seem to have an issue with it, but I haven't played it in a while. Others seem to, but don't really say why.
cp_redfort - Can be fun, but only in short amounts.
cp_toyfort - Haven't played it seriously enough to really know.
koth_megaman - Haven't played it.
koth_pacman (?) - Keep on server, take out of rotation.
pl_cashworks - imokwiththis
pl_swiftwater - sure
pl_minepit - I guess.

hi im br those maps look good

the only thing missing now is a few couple magnet saysounds

peace

http://www.brofist.org/hsr/res/387.html

Generic motd

>>756
I thought this was the motd:
http://www.brofist.org/hsr/src/131102881390.png

>>752
>And stop misusing the word "dick-around"
Seriously god damn. I'm pretty sure last time I checked dicking around meant a map with absolutely no goals.

>>756
I need to talk to you about the motd.

>>759
she need to clean that white shit up seriously dog

>>757

put the info I have in the motd in that one and I'll put it back as the motd.

if not the maplist at least provide info about the server being micspam

make it like this:
http://www.brofist.org/cstrike/src/130128884327.png

Replay works now.

Also moved thread to HSR board because.

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